As One with no religion - was raised with lots of love and Ethics, but no religion - I have to ask, and have asked many times before:
How do We tell the difference between metaphysical manifestation (prophesy come true) and psychopaths in control using scripture as a playbook, keeping believers doing nothing to stop Them, just waiting for some Other to come along and "fix it?"
What I see is a scripted performance to keep Many from doing anything, casting sandy hooks into the emotions of believers, and Trump is just one of the actors on the LITERAL world STAGE...
don't lose it on me now. THERE IS NOTHING SCRIPTURAL ABOUT ANYTHING WE ARE WITNESSING RIGHT NOW. I mean that. I am Christian.. have been reading my Bible for over 50 years.. yes. I can quote from it from memory.. Com'n people: this is POLITICS and BUSINESS AS USUAL. PERIOD. The only thing I can think of that is even remotely related to the Bible is people are praying for one another. I am being serious now. I know the Revelation. we are not in the "END TIMES".. go back and read Jesus's Sermon on the Mount. I am being serious now as a scientific creationist. I know there are lots of "Christians" out there claiming lots of stuff.. but Jesus's said BE PREPARED.. for NO ONE KNOWS but the Father when the end times are coming.. and Jesus's gave a couple hints.. which you have to read in the Bible, like Jonah. the Fig Tree. Sermon on the Mount.. so give me a break, Mike.. done for the day on this subject which I normally never discuss w/ non believers. Isabell
Depending on which edition of the Bible one reads, the Revelation (aka Apocalypse) 13:3 passage seems to take on a different meaning. For example, there is:
"One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder,", (RSVCE). The word "seemed" is not used in some of the other popular editions such as:
"And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.", (Douay Rheims 1899 American Edition), and an identical rendering:
"And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.", (King James Version).
In the first instance the word "seemed" is used which could imply that it only appeared to have a mortal wound but the reaction of the world with astonishment makes this interpretation difficult. In the next two, the phrase is "I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death", which sounds much more like an actual mortal wound that then, is astonishingly healed, suggesting a counterfeit miracle since the beast referred to is given power by Satan (the dragon), not God. On the other hand, "the phrase I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death" could be a non-modern way of saying the wound appeared to be fatal but wasn't. Then there is this:
"One of the beast’s heads looked like it had sustained a mortal wound, but its fatal wound was healed. Rapt with amazement, the whole world followed the beast.", (International Standard Version). Here the description sounds much more like an apparent mortal wound, that is, a non-fatal wound that was thought to be fatal but unexpectedly healed. It is similar to the RSVCE rendering. The ISV description could also apply to an apparent (counterfeit) miraculous intervention. Recall that in Revelation 13:13-14, the second beast (false prophet) works great signs that deceive those who dwell on the earth. Finally, the New International Version (NIV) strongly suggests that the wound only appeared to be fatal: "One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast." The Book of Revelation is very challenging to interpret. From this passage as variously rendered, it does not appear possible to be certain what John the Apostle meant to convey precisely. Additional scriptural and other evidence would have to be brought forward for further consideration.
As One with no religion - was raised with lots of love and Ethics, but no religion - I have to ask, and have asked many times before:
How do We tell the difference between metaphysical manifestation (prophesy come true) and psychopaths in control using scripture as a playbook, keeping believers doing nothing to stop Them, just waiting for some Other to come along and "fix it?"
What I see is a scripted performance to keep Many from doing anything, casting sandy hooks into the emotions of believers, and Trump is just one of the actors on the LITERAL world STAGE...
don't lose it on me now. THERE IS NOTHING SCRIPTURAL ABOUT ANYTHING WE ARE WITNESSING RIGHT NOW. I mean that. I am Christian.. have been reading my Bible for over 50 years.. yes. I can quote from it from memory.. Com'n people: this is POLITICS and BUSINESS AS USUAL. PERIOD. The only thing I can think of that is even remotely related to the Bible is people are praying for one another. I am being serious now. I know the Revelation. we are not in the "END TIMES".. go back and read Jesus's Sermon on the Mount. I am being serious now as a scientific creationist. I know there are lots of "Christians" out there claiming lots of stuff.. but Jesus's said BE PREPARED.. for NO ONE KNOWS but the Father when the end times are coming.. and Jesus's gave a couple hints.. which you have to read in the Bible, like Jonah. the Fig Tree. Sermon on the Mount.. so give me a break, Mike.. done for the day on this subject which I normally never discuss w/ non believers. Isabell
Depending on which edition of the Bible one reads, the Revelation (aka Apocalypse) 13:3 passage seems to take on a different meaning. For example, there is:
"One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder,", (RSVCE). The word "seemed" is not used in some of the other popular editions such as:
"And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.", (Douay Rheims 1899 American Edition), and an identical rendering:
"And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.", (King James Version).
In the first instance the word "seemed" is used which could imply that it only appeared to have a mortal wound but the reaction of the world with astonishment makes this interpretation difficult. In the next two, the phrase is "I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death", which sounds much more like an actual mortal wound that then, is astonishingly healed, suggesting a counterfeit miracle since the beast referred to is given power by Satan (the dragon), not God. On the other hand, "the phrase I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death" could be a non-modern way of saying the wound appeared to be fatal but wasn't. Then there is this:
"One of the beast’s heads looked like it had sustained a mortal wound, but its fatal wound was healed. Rapt with amazement, the whole world followed the beast.", (International Standard Version). Here the description sounds much more like an apparent mortal wound, that is, a non-fatal wound that was thought to be fatal but unexpectedly healed. It is similar to the RSVCE rendering. The ISV description could also apply to an apparent (counterfeit) miraculous intervention. Recall that in Revelation 13:13-14, the second beast (false prophet) works great signs that deceive those who dwell on the earth. Finally, the New International Version (NIV) strongly suggests that the wound only appeared to be fatal: "One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast." The Book of Revelation is very challenging to interpret. From this passage as variously rendered, it does not appear possible to be certain what John the Apostle meant to convey precisely. Additional scriptural and other evidence would have to be brought forward for further consideration.
https://francisoneill.substack.com/p/lockdowns-vaccines-and-the-occult
Do you read Francis' Substack?
I like how he describes the Revelation of the Method.
Of course the snipers are in the best posi for the best shot.
Do people pay to attend a Trump rally; because if they do then they could not leave even if lots of scary snipers.
Actually, even investing a lot of time and effort into getting there would make it hard for attendees to leave.
Why were rally goers pointing out the man lying on the roof with a gun. Why indeed were they not pointing out the men standing on roofs with guns.